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In this episode of DEBRIEFED, I interview Nick Pope, former UK Ministry of Defence official and head of the British government’s UFO program. We dive deep into high-strangeness cases like the Cosford Incident, Rendlesham Forest, civilian encounters, government cover-ups, and the infamous Calvine UFO photo. Nick opens up about working inside the MOD, encountering Men in Black reports, secret programs, and his thoughts on the future of disclosure. This is a must-watch for anyone fascinated by UFOs, UAPs, and the real-life X-Files.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
2:54 Introducing Nick Pope: Former MOD UFO Investigator
4:08 Inside the UK’s UFO Desk and National Security Focus
7:15 Civilian vs. Military Sightings and MOD Limitations
10:26 High-Strangeness Cases: Time Slips, and Hybrids
15:07 The 1993 Cosford Wave and Similarities to Belgium Sightings
19:32 Radar Limitations, Filter Bias, and UFO Detection Issues
22:13 Government Censorship and Avoiding Fringe Topics
26:56 The Art Shop Incident and Human-Looking “Aliens”
35:55 The Rendlesham Forest Case: Timeline, Investigation, and Fallout
41:14 UFOs and Nuclear Weapons: Malfunctions and Pre-Launch Events
50:31 The Binary Code Download and Time Travel Speculation
1:04:36 Men in Black, Government Surveillance, and Covert Ops
1:36:02 Transition to Media Work and Ancient Aliens
1:44:04 Government Secrecy, Disclosure Efforts, and the Future of UAP Investigations
